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from the other party that was publicly voiced came from michael brown, who was the head of fema when katrina struck, and he criticized the president for being too quick to respond to this tragedy. i say bring it on. more criticism like that. >> and he wasn't afraid to hammer the romney campaign over their continued use of the completely misleading jeep ad in the way that only bill clinton can do. >> when i was a kid and i got caught with my hand in a cookie jar, sort of shrugged my shoulders, and my face got red and i took my hand out of the cookie jar. this guy gets caught, he digs down and gets some more cookies. they actually increased the ad buy on an ad they knew was false because they think you're dumb. i think you're smart and i think barack obama will be the next president. "the new york times," fivethirtyeight blog shows president obama ahead by less than one point. president clinton's appeal with white certain voters could be the final push the president needs in the state of virginia. let's bring in joy reid from thegrio.com. i want to say i've never seen a former president be so
from the other party that was publicly voiced came from michael brown, who was the head of fema when katrina struck, and he criticized the president for being too quick to respond to this tragedy. i say bring it on. more criticism like that. >> and he wasn't afraid to hammer the romney campaign over their continued use of the completely misleading jeep ad in the way that only bill clinton can do. >> when i was a kid and i got caught with my hand in a cookie jar, sort of shrugged my...
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again, that takes me back to the katrina days. if this plan goes through with the fema trailers, need for temporary housing, there was a big situation down in louisiana where they found out months after the storm that there was a formaldehyde contamination problem inside those fema trailers. so make sure as they segue into temporary housing, they take precautions and ask about what they're getting because a lot of problems and some lawsuits in new orleans after katrina. >> you heard the dilemma some of the folks are in. they've been asked to evacuate, leave, maybe go to a shelter, dry, dry land, but they don't want to leave their homes because of looting. >> yeah, people want to protect their property. can't tell somebody they can't. so, now to some lighter moments from our storm coverage. we know about the bromance between new jersey governor chris christie and president obama. there is word that christie found closure with a target of his unrequited love. >> the one, the only bruce springsteen. christie said yesterday he got a h
again, that takes me back to the katrina days. if this plan goes through with the fema trailers, need for temporary housing, there was a big situation down in louisiana where they found out months after the storm that there was a formaldehyde contamination problem inside those fema trailers. so make sure as they segue into temporary housing, they take precautions and ask about what they're getting because a lot of problems and some lawsuits in new orleans after katrina. >> you heard the...
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>> i know that it was -- it's bad to say if something is very damaging as what we are calling cold katrina up in new york. it feels unfortunate to look at tonight a political sense. but we know politics is part of life. the storm slowed up the romney campaign in a way by taking all the attention onto the president and going to the storm. and it sort of slowed up romney. but at the end of the day i think it's a wash for president obama. i don't think it does anything for him. then the situation in new york is turning grimmer. but, megyn, i think overall there has been a grimness and joylessness and profound negativity to the president's campaign. i don't think if it turns out he is the winner, i don't think it will help him govern. i think it will almost make it more difficult for him to work with republicans and gather anything together. you look at a picture of a romney rally and it looks happy. obama rally feels a little bit different. megyn: you said you suspect both romney and obama have a sense of what's coming and you think you can see it in the candidate's faces. in your experience
>> i know that it was -- it's bad to say if something is very damaging as what we are calling cold katrina up in new york. it feels unfortunate to look at tonight a political sense. but we know politics is part of life. the storm slowed up the romney campaign in a way by taking all the attention onto the president and going to the storm. and it sort of slowed up romney. but at the end of the day i think it's a wash for president obama. i don't think it does anything for him. then the...
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if you go back to hurricane katrina, congressional action directive that hurricanes katrina, rita, and wilma were directed to be 100% of recovery -- recovery costs. >> director fugate, you have given us the facts and figures, but i would like to know how satisfied you are with the operation. is it going according to expectations and needs? what needs to be done? where are the gaps? >> i am not happy. i'm not letting anyone here think that we are doing good. you've got survivors out there and they do not care how much you've got in staging. they do not care how many press releases you have issued. they just want to know when their power is going back on and whether you can help them get a place to stay. i met a young man who is 15 years old who was taking care of his mom. she is in a wheelchair. she has been in that wheelchair for several days. their home was flooded and they are renters. they needed help. sometimes the only time i'm able to get satisfaction is that we were able to register them with fema and get them a place to stay. i will not be satisfied until everybody that needs h
if you go back to hurricane katrina, congressional action directive that hurricanes katrina, rita, and wilma were directed to be 100% of recovery -- recovery costs. >> director fugate, you have given us the facts and figures, but i would like to know how satisfied you are with the operation. is it going according to expectations and needs? what needs to be done? where are the gaps? >> i am not happy. i'm not letting anyone here think that we are doing good. you've got survivors out...
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in katrina, they work up for most years, i think. how long do you think these mobile homes will house and have they been tested for form of a high? >> these are existing structures that people qualify for v.a. and hud loans for. our traditional programs are 18 months. a lot of those are are to be how many homes are going to be repaired, and working closely with high and secretary donna onvan, and they have issued a regulation for what has to be approved by paul. i need to differ back to what the standards are. hud approves standards that are those standards used to approve loans for buying manufactured housing. >> that you so much. this concludes our call for today. for more information about fema, visit fema.gov. thank you very much. goodbye. >> i need some help over here. >> he just rolled about. >> >> where is sergeant robert yates today? >> he ended up entering himself into an innovative program at walter reed, where they ended up using acupuncture, meditation, using other techniques to wean him off of the drugs he was on, and th
in katrina, they work up for most years, i think. how long do you think these mobile homes will house and have they been tested for form of a high? >> these are existing structures that people qualify for v.a. and hud loans for. our traditional programs are 18 months. a lot of those are are to be how many homes are going to be repaired, and working closely with high and secretary donna onvan, and they have issued a regulation for what has to be approved by paul. i need to differ back to...
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. >> many others have been dispatched from illinois to share what they learned from katrina several years ago. >> reporter: how much water do we need to pump out? >> our estimates at this point in time are 300 to 400 million gallons of water. and it's growing. >> reporter: and even though there's not as much overall as there was in new orleans, he says the job in new york is much more difficult. >> it's not the amount of water that's the problem, it's where it is. >> it's where it is, yeah. >> and where it is is underground in miles and miles of subway and road tunnels. >> some of those tunnels are up to 2 miles long. and the only points into them is at each end. and that requires us to have some pumping capabilities that perhaps reach 1/2 mile to a mile long. >> another problem, the age of the tunnels. new york's subway system is over 100 years old. >> some places we could probably pump out quicker, but we don't want to collapse the tunnel. >> the next challenge, where to pump all that water. >> largely mostly sea water. right now we're working on, it'll get pumped right back out to wher
. >> many others have been dispatched from illinois to share what they learned from katrina several years ago. >> reporter: how much water do we need to pump out? >> our estimates at this point in time are 300 to 400 million gallons of water. and it's growing. >> reporter: and even though there's not as much overall as there was in new orleans, he says the job in new york is much more difficult. >> it's not the amount of water that's the problem, it's where it is....
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i have seen it as an adult, visiting the ninth ward after katrina in new orleans. meeting folks at food pantries of all among the united states who work daily to help our struggling citizens through the hard times we have been suffering. the american dream and an american reality. i vote tomorrow -- our book tomorrow is the one way we get to determine the distance in that equation. tomorrow we get a personal hand in shaping the kind of america what our kids to grow up in. i am a husband and a dad. lovely wife is here with me. we got three kids, grown-up, going out into the world. i'm 63. patty is much younger. but we both lived through some galvanizing moment in american history. we lived through the civil- rights movement. the peace movement. the women's movement. the plate in east berlin. one year before the fall of the berlin wall. amnesty international a year before the release of mandela and the end of apartheid. you could feel the world shifting beneath your feet. we both remember another galvanizing moment -- the night that president obama was elected. [appl
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you were governor of mississippi when hurricane katrina came through. you know what you had to do in terms of working with the federal government. a lot of heat on chris christie, the governor of new jersey for being seen touring his state with president obama and praising his leadership. in your opinion, did governor christie break some unwritten rule? >> look, the governor, whether it's governor of mississippi or new jersey is supposed to do what's in the best interest of his state and his people. and when you have a big disaster like this, a governor knows that not for the next few weeks or months, but for years the federal government's going to be their partner. you know, it's very interesting to me when i didn't criticize george bush after katrina, the press attacked me for not criticizing, saying i was partisan. i did just exactly what chris christie did in this sense. i was taught criticize in private, praise in public, but criticize in private. and besides that, the federal government did a whole lot more right than wrong. for christie and new j
you were governor of mississippi when hurricane katrina came through. you know what you had to do in terms of working with the federal government. a lot of heat on chris christie, the governor of new jersey for being seen touring his state with president obama and praising his leadership. in your opinion, did governor christie break some unwritten rule? >> look, the governor, whether it's governor of mississippi or new jersey is supposed to do what's in the best interest of his state and...
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. >> i think a lot of people look and think, wait a second, after hurricane katrina the price of gas went up, but that's because that storm struck in a different region of the country. >> well, yes indeed. 25% of the nation's refining capacity is on the gulf coast. katrina was a category 5 storm which meant refineries near the coast took a lot more wind, a lot more water, although sandy was properly named a super storm, it didn't have the sustained wind that we see on the gulf coast with a category 5, and so you didn't have anywhere near the damage to the production facilities. but what makes the new york area, new jersey, new york, connecticut so complicated, matt in, terms of the supply system is you don't have that many refineri refineries. therefore you rely on pipelines and ports, and the ports took quite a bit of damage. you couldn't get barges and ships in there right away. >> right. >> the refineries weren't too badly damaged, but the pipeline was also shut down for a while because it exits on the water. >> let me ask you this then as someone who knows the industry and the de
. >> i think a lot of people look and think, wait a second, after hurricane katrina the price of gas went up, but that's because that storm struck in a different region of the country. >> well, yes indeed. 25% of the nation's refining capacity is on the gulf coast. katrina was a category 5 storm which meant refineries near the coast took a lot more wind, a lot more water, although sandy was properly named a super storm, it didn't have the sustained wind that we see on the gulf coast...
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it may rival katrina in terms of the need for recovery and infrastructure replacement as a result of that storm. fema has $12 billion in its account. if sequestration were to go through, the white house estimates that fema would lose about $878 million. at a time when fema emergency centers are being set up from rhode island all the way down to southern new jersey, these are centers where people who have lost their homes in some instances, lost their businesses, have lost equipment are now flooding into to try to get relief and help like any other natural disaster in the past. these are people who paid their taxes year in and year out and made sure that fema was there when the folks down in louisiana and mississippi were hit by katrina. fema is the agency which helps communities pay for police overtime, fire overtime, sanitation worker overtime. these are the folks that we always call on at times of emergency. yet sequestration, which this congress has failed to address, is now sitting out there really putting at risk the ability of fema to do its critical job. other programs which a
it may rival katrina in terms of the need for recovery and infrastructure replacement as a result of that storm. fema has $12 billion in its account. if sequestration were to go through, the white house estimates that fema would lose about $878 million. at a time when fema emergency centers are being set up from rhode island all the way down to southern new jersey, these are centers where people who have lost their homes in some instances, lost their businesses, have lost equipment are now...
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great state of new york yesterday say that the cost of this particular super storm exceeds the cost of katrina in dollars. >> brian: you talk about residents, that's one challenge. what about businesses? people that live in business and try to live off their business? donna is being hugged by the president and has a inry in a that was destroyed. and guess what the insurance said? we only covered water that comes down. not that comes up. she asked the president for help. she joined us earlier. she's really disheartened. >> i was very excited and felt warm by the embrace thinking this is really going to happen. i'm going to get the help i need because he promised that. and it's been almost a month now and i've gotten no help and gotten nothing but no, you're not covered for this. no, you're not covered for that. and it's because of the way the storm hit and the water rising that i'm not covered for any contents in the entire business. i expected, when i was introduced to director of fema and the president told him to get me immediate help, i thought i was getting help from fema itself. not that
great state of new york yesterday say that the cost of this particular super storm exceeds the cost of katrina in dollars. >> brian: you talk about residents, that's one challenge. what about businesses? people that live in business and try to live off their business? donna is being hugged by the president and has a inry in a that was destroyed. and guess what the insurance said? we only covered water that comes down. not that comes up. she asked the president for help. she joined us...
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i fell in love with him during katrina. don't give me that b.s. about fema doing a good job. i'm down here. >> shep has a real authenticity and a voice. he's also -- people don't understand how good he is. i've watched him on the fly. i've watched him when breaking news blows apart his run-down. and he can execute a breaking news situation as good as just about anyone in the business right now. >> bill: absolutely. major garrett -- [ laughter ] >> whatever. >> bill: major garrett is here. >> by the way, i was reading what shep just sent me. >> bill: major is a "friend of bill" for this whole hour. we'll be joined by stephanie from emily's list. she a good night tuesday night too. but first, what have you got dan? >> now that he helped his boss win re-election, vice president joe biden on to other fun projects. he's making a cameo on tv. e. online reports he's making a guest appearance on parks and recreation playing himself. amy poehler plays the woman leslie on the show. she's had a long crush on biden. in the show, she describes her ideal man as having the brains of george
i fell in love with him during katrina. don't give me that b.s. about fema doing a good job. i'm down here. >> shep has a real authenticity and a voice. he's also -- people don't understand how good he is. i've watched him on the fly. i've watched him when breaking news blows apart his run-down. and he can execute a breaking news situation as good as just about anyone in the business right now. >> bill: absolutely. major garrett -- [ laughter ] >> whatever. >> bill:...
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some people think it will be second only to katrina and there will be tens of billions of dollars involved in the recovery effort. we know we're working on a continuing resolution that will run until april 1st. whether that will be enough or not, it remains to be seen in. every time there is a disaster on the west coast, an earthquake, a flood, a tornado, we always pull together and do it has to be done. i did not expect new jersey will be treated any differently. i know my colleagues in surrounding states were very hard hit. i have been in contact with both democrats and republicans. we will join together and do what is necessary. we do not know the numbers are right now so it is no point to speculate. host:. you for joining us this morning. >> among the delegation that went with president obama on the tour of damage in new jersey. we're waiting to take you live for the latest update from fema their reporting the department of homeland security is temporarily waiving some maritime rules to allow foreign oil tankers from the gulf of mexico to enter northeast and ports. it jury -- janet of
some people think it will be second only to katrina and there will be tens of billions of dollars involved in the recovery effort. we know we're working on a continuing resolution that will run until april 1st. whether that will be enough or not, it remains to be seen in. every time there is a disaster on the west coast, an earthquake, a flood, a tornado, we always pull together and do it has to be done. i did not expect new jersey will be treated any differently. i know my colleagues in...
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and krugman -- paul krugman's column today is all about the response between sandy and katrina and just laying out there saying -- you know, big government isn't the enemy. you know. he quotes the old ronald reagan line where reagan got cheers. i'm from the government. i'm here to help. >> stephanie: rude, chris christie proved obama's point better than anyone ever could have that he has always been bipartisan. has always reached you know, across the aisle to help anybody who will work with him. >> yep. that's one of the missing narratives from this campaign. >> stephanie: it blew romney's whole closing argument. like that scene in "brute almighty" -- "bruce almighty." >> someone in the chat room said we have a chris christie like character and that would be alan grayson. that's a very good point. >> yeah. if we could get the right to stop, you know, stop trying to swat him down every time that he gets some traction. >> stephanie: yeah. exactly. oh, that's just -- that's just rude. >> stephanie: a lot of these -- he's up against a tea bagger. he's going to win. we're having jim on today
and krugman -- paul krugman's column today is all about the response between sandy and katrina and just laying out there saying -- you know, big government isn't the enemy. you know. he quotes the old ronald reagan line where reagan got cheers. i'm from the government. i'm here to help. >> stephanie: rude, chris christie proved obama's point better than anyone ever could have that he has always been bipartisan. has always reached you know, across the aisle to help anybody who will work...
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my view, katrina -- sorry -- sandy gave some impetus to dealing with climate change. and i said in new york we're going to pay for climate change one way or another. we can pay for it after each natural disaster. we in new york have had 50 -- sorry -- we have had 300 or -- sorry. phrasing it wrong. we have had in the last three or four years we have had once in a hundred year disasters with irene, with sandy. and so, you know, i think it will give some impetus to deal with climate change, but even if we can't reach compromise on that, there's lots of things in energy that we can reach compromise on and that will be on the agenda. and the fourth thing i'd put on the agenda i talked about earlier in reference to your question, dave. maybe we can get some real financial reform. i think republicans are beginning to rethink super pacs because they haven't produced the positive results they hoped for and negative results that they hadn't expected. >> yes, sir. >> if a deal is reached before the end of the year, as you hope, does that remove the need for tax reform, more com
my view, katrina -- sorry -- sandy gave some impetus to dealing with climate change. and i said in new york we're going to pay for climate change one way or another. we can pay for it after each natural disaster. we in new york have had 50 -- sorry -- we have had 300 or -- sorry. phrasing it wrong. we have had in the last three or four years we have had once in a hundred year disasters with irene, with sandy. and so, you know, i think it will give some impetus to deal with climate change, but...
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information on the portal, the fema housing portal that we developed in partnership with fema after katrina. we knew it would be important in large scale disasters. and we already have nearly a thousand homes for rent. click an the fema housing portal from our website and you can get access to that. we've also been working on identifying particular units available to seniors or other who may have medical service needs as well and those will be absolutely critical resources going forward. we are also beginning to focus on the longer term process of rebuilding. i spoke to some families that were already asking what resources are there to rebuild. obviously craig has talked about the importance of registering with fema. we've already seen over 160,000 families register. that's critical. we also want to make sure families know first of all they'll be safe while they think about their rebuilding. i've directed all f.h.a. lenders to impose a more torme on foreclosers in disaster areas. we don't want families to be victimized twice once by the storm and twice by the foreclosure. we want to make su
information on the portal, the fema housing portal that we developed in partnership with fema after katrina. we knew it would be important in large scale disasters. and we already have nearly a thousand homes for rent. click an the fema housing portal from our website and you can get access to that. we've also been working on identifying particular units available to seniors or other who may have medical service needs as well and those will be absolutely critical resources going forward. we are...
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that was very prevalent during katrina. a lot of people wanted to just go and they knew enough to know that just showing up wouldn't work. so they were trying to not bother the operations and they were coming to the pentagon to say how can we help in what and what can we do? i think that scenario replays itself at various levels all over the world, and so again, i am torn by the need to keep the government out of a local cooperative effort so that the benefits of capitalism can come up with a solution that is efficient, low-cost and philanthropic way supported. you have people confuse with a very limited amount of technology and infrastructure requirements like the use of cell phones and how do you communicate during these kinds of disasters at the local level to say what your requirements are? how would you leverage those technologies to inform and independent group who is dedicated to supporting those kinds of things? that could be the csis and any non-governmental government to apply a bias or an agenda. as much as the g
that was very prevalent during katrina. a lot of people wanted to just go and they knew enough to know that just showing up wouldn't work. so they were trying to not bother the operations and they were coming to the pentagon to say how can we help in what and what can we do? i think that scenario replays itself at various levels all over the world, and so again, i am torn by the need to keep the government out of a local cooperative effort so that the benefits of capitalism can come up with a...
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in my view, katrina, you saw it, sandy give some impetus to dealing with climate change. i said, in new york, we will pay for climate change one way or another. we can pay for it after each natural disaster -- in new york, we have had three or 4100-year disasters -- or four 100-year disasters. irene, sandy. it will give some impetus to deal with climate change. even if we cannot reach compromise on that, there are lots of things that we can reach compromise on and that would be on the agenda. the fourth thing i put on the agenda, i talked about earlier in reference to your question. maybe we can get some real financial reform. republicans are beginning to rethink super pacs. they have not produced the positive results they hope for and they have produced negative results that they did not expect. >> if a deal is reached before the end of the year, does that remove the need for tax reform, more comprehensive tax reform next year? >> my view is that corporate tax reform should be treated separately. why? to make corporate tax reform work, you should not have revenue increas
in my view, katrina, you saw it, sandy give some impetus to dealing with climate change. i said, in new york, we will pay for climate change one way or another. we can pay for it after each natural disaster -- in new york, we have had three or 4100-year disasters -- or four 100-year disasters. irene, sandy. it will give some impetus to deal with climate change. even if we cannot reach compromise on that, there are lots of things that we can reach compromise on and that would be on the agenda....
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. >> woodruff: comparisons being made to hurricane katrina, not only new jersey and new york. we also want to say this brings the electoral college projected total at this point-- it's early in the evening-- to 79 electoral votes for president obama 82 electoral vote for governor romney. we know we need 270-- they need 270 in order to become president. >> ifill: of course we have to talk about new jersey because david and mark, chris christie, the governor of the new jersey, royaled the wate a littlebit this week by actually having kind things to say about president obama, not that that accountedly the outcome in new jersey, a deeply blue state, but i wonder whether we're watching chris christie more closely. >> i think he did it for severe reasons. his state got whalloped. he was emotionally drawn as anybody in those circumstances. i don't think he was thinking of his future political process. i do think sandy had a political impact. i think the exit polls give some suggestion of that. and partly because they saw the president being effective, but partly because they saw him
. >> woodruff: comparisons being made to hurricane katrina, not only new jersey and new york. we also want to say this brings the electoral college projected total at this point-- it's early in the evening-- to 79 electoral votes for president obama 82 electoral vote for governor romney. we know we need 270-- they need 270 in order to become president. >> ifill: of course we have to talk about new jersey because david and mark, chris christie, the governor of the new jersey, royaled...
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the other part was, this time, unlike what happened after katrina, this time the federal relief agencies and the state agencies actually did a really good job. i think people just may have given the president 134 credit for that. >> pelley: nancy cordes is in chicago at the obama victory rally. >> well, scott, short time ago the president who is not here at his rally yet but down the street at upscale hotel thanking no doubt his staffers who helped him go over the top tonight. he sent out an e-mail to all of his supporters across the country telling them, thank you and saying, this was no accident tonight. this is because of everything that you did. and it is true that tonight's election is a validation of his ground game. he had 800 field offices across the country concentrated in those battleground states compared to 300 for governor romney. look at ohio, the president had 137 field offices in that state. governor romney 39. now the romney campaign always argued that that didn't matter that they weren't in the real estate business they didn't need to be popping a lot of pens and paying
the other part was, this time, unlike what happened after katrina, this time the federal relief agencies and the state agencies actually did a really good job. i think people just may have given the president 134 credit for that. >> pelley: nancy cordes is in chicago at the obama victory rally. >> well, scott, short time ago the president who is not here at his rally yet but down the street at upscale hotel thanking no doubt his staffers who helped him go over the top tonight. he...
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bush after hurricane katrina. really? he is rated positively on the issue by 63% of republicans, nearly as many conservatives, 73% as liberals, [ inaudible ] that is again, almost 80%, jim. >> uh-huh. >> stephanie: the president has reached 50% nationally. and then jacki covered some of the state-by-state wisconsin eight point lead michigan -- yadda, yadda, yadda. the point is many people are fired up now. ♪ ♪ forward, forward, forward ♪ ♪ we must move forward ♪ ♪ they have no reason reason but we have the perfect plan we must move forward and vote for the best man ♪ ♪ go barack go barack we're all fired up ♪ ♪ go barack barack barack ♪ ♪ hey, forward, forward, forward ♪ >> woo-hoo! >> stephanie: andra in minneapolis. we have representative gary peters. good morning, congressman. >> good morning. >> stephanie: i know you worked closely with the are the on the auto rescue right? >> absolutely. it has been a great success as you know. >> stephanie: did you do a spit take when you saw the romney ad
bush after hurricane katrina. really? he is rated positively on the issue by 63% of republicans, nearly as many conservatives, 73% as liberals, [ inaudible ] that is again, almost 80%, jim. >> uh-huh. >> stephanie: the president has reached 50% nationally. and then jacki covered some of the state-by-state wisconsin eight point lead michigan -- yadda, yadda, yadda. the point is many people are fired up now. ♪ ♪ forward, forward, forward ♪ ♪ we must move forward ♪ ♪ they...